In some ways, the area seems similar to the Internet. The search is analogous to trying to find something on the net, where you scan a large area to locate areas of interest. Sometimes you'll encounter a useful nugget of information, like the mineral used in making jewelry; other times you'll discover information which seems valid, only to turn out to be wrong, like the fool's gold. Some information is in different languages, like the page of info describing the transformer in English and German(?) and also points to the multinational nature of the net...
I don't believe that this is real. It would be easy,at least
conceptually, to entirely fake this site. One reason I don`t
believe it is because of the effects of the air blast. A
pnuematic air blast is strong, but it isn't going to cleanly
wipe the gravel away from the object when the gravel and the
object aren't that different. What I suspect is going on is
that you have two large images, one of the dirty site, and one
of the clean site. You only transmit the portion of the image
near where the user clicked, and you alternately return portions
of the clean image if the user has blown air in the vicinity.
It is however, extremely creative, and the interface is amazing
in its dynamicity(word?) and I would like to hire the people
who came up with the idea sometime in the future.
Testing my theory...
I take it back, this far too elaborate to be fake. Clearly
some of the objects are anchored, and the air blast is strong
enough to move the rocks. I feel stupid for claiming otherwise
, my apologies.
Well, all I can really say is 'Wow'! I have not heard of anything similar to this on the web, but it seems like such a natural progression of computing, robotics, video, and our desire to test and experiment with the notion of the existence of space that resides outside our immediate realm of observation. I think that part of this project's appeal is it's idea of manipulating something indirectly, that is, over the WWW.
...I was wondering how I know this is not a clever laserdisk full of pictures you grabbed, with no robot, until I saw the time on the watch after blasting it. That was when my skepticism evaporated.
As my friend Brad and I were trying to negotiate the arm, we were keenly aware of what we were doing. That is, we were moving a piece of equipment well removed from us. We're in my residence room here at the University of Alberta connected by remote server to the U which in turn is connected to the USC host and ultimately to the robot arm. At least, that's what we been led to believe. Whether true or not, it seems real. We've accessed another part of the world, had consequence (we move dirt!) and all from this remote terminal.
Great idea - I hope to see much more of this kind of remote presence in the future. Especially intriguing to me is allowing average people to go places they would not otherwise be able to go.
With this kind of educational potential, the world becomes a classroom for our children.
Seems to be the turning point between "real" and "virtual" reality... Or - with other words: that's where magic begins.
Note: Operators were asked to use "***" to distinguish log entries which mentioned artifacts.
I do not know a great deal about the area in question however the ***bottle opener / Keyring and the ***Jos stick holder found x=952 y=393 at first sugested a camp site or festival site, the apperance then of the ***crab would have to be explained by its having been dropped by a passing bird. What a shame it all ends so soon though i'm sure that the timing is critical.
***I don't have a clue about what some of these artifacts are, although the drawing of the man's head is interesting. It appears there is writing in Hebrew (maybe) on his forehead. I can't think of any signifigance this might have.
***WORKING WATCH WITH CORRECT TIME (SECOND HAND MOVING) FOUND AT X-465/Y-514.
***Page of writing, first discovered by Rik, further excavated by myself. Names and dates - a bit unclear to read before energy ran out but several possibilities suggested themselves - newspaper, either obituary or marriages, judging from glimpses, or possibly reviews of something. Further study of the page would be needed before a final analysis could be done.
I think I found my missing remote.
*** I found a memo saying "Turquoise was used as the.....rock.. ...." (couldn't read it further). I blew some dust away so I could read it better.
*** During my spell as operator I uncovered what appeared to be a Soccer Referees whistle and and a metal disc with engraved letters and numbers. I will investigate further on my next visit. The initial indication is that life is a game and the supreme being is the umpire. The reason it seems to be unfair is that he's lost the whistle and the token for his locker.
*** @ 867, 390: A horseshoe-shaped part with a flat, circular part joining the ends. Possibly a ring, although I have no idea of the scale.
***I found a globe, bits of text and a ruler
*** gee, is the thing at 67,292 a fish head? ***
I read about it in Newsweek - quite a neat thing. ***I seemed to find something that looked like a globe. It was difficult to see it, but it appeared round and had lines like lat/long and a map
*** *** Ok, I think I understand this dig site. It is the contants of a Human's backpack who must have stumbled into this waste land in his travles. I belive that he was either an explorer, reporter, of fisherman. A fisherman 'cause I found a fishing lure. More research should help *** end notes.
I came to computers later than most and this is the first time that I've used a computer to interact with anything non virtual (besides people) the possibilities of this are staggering.
I currently work on the Space Station Program at NASA and we have been told that there will be no telescience capability on the program for science users. This demonstrates that this capability can be implemented with low bandwith. I'm very impressed!
This was cool. I was operating your robot whilst sitting in Houston watching the crew of STS-64 operate their controls in Discovery. That crew will be using their robot arm to pluck a spacecraft from orbit tomorrow.
I'm sure I will be telling my kids about how I did this when doctors of the future are able to operate in this manner. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. That was great fun and a real inspiration - so inspirational, in fact, that I am tempted to try something similar, perhaps at a sacred site here in Britain. I'm sure the BBC would help me in my experiments... Watch the Web and perhaps I can return your hospitality!
Thanks for one of the hippest/coolest sites around. Couldn't help but feel I was being studied/observed, though. This seems like it might be more a data-gather experiment for a psycho-social implications of man/machine interaction - the operators' responses would valuable data for something like that. So when does it show up at the Museum of Contemporary Art?
This was really interesting as an experiment in virtual discovery. With time I would imagine any number of potentially expensive experiments being made available worldwide.
I am currently working on the NERO Project in Oregon.
This robot operation somewhat resembles what we are
trying to accomplish. However, we want to put the
observation environment on real-time video over ATM.
At this point your robot operation is quite inspirational
to us. Thanks a lot. Questions about our project may be directed to:
bohusc@jedi.engr.orst.edu
aschked@jedi.engr.orst.edu
aktan@jedi.engr.orst.edu
Cool, How about some real exploration now? Undersea etc?
We were discussing the implications while operating the arm. The possibilities of moving exploratory units across the Antarctic plains...home surveillance...laboratory dissections ...or better, a remote camera linked by satellite on the moon's surface! With this kind of educational potential, the world becomes a classroom for our children.
This gives the term "remote control" a whole new meaning.
It makes me think of some science-fiction scenario, in which you can take over control of distant environments to manipulate all kind of things.
How about diving into cyberspace, logging in to your neighbours house, and "driving" his toaster...Hehe...
neat idea, has a great deal of potential--put one on the floor of the ocean or on the moon!
It's like a new universe, and it would take forever to explore it all.. so I'm thinking.. I might write a little MACRO type program to automatically scan the entire area.. heh heh. It would be great if the robot were a mobile one out in the desert somewhere, or say just roaming around an office complex or university campus.
Really a master piece this WWW site. I work for the Veronica Broadcast & Publishing Corporation in the Netherlands (although I am now personally connected to the InterNet) and we are planning to make a similar setup with two cameras, but in the Radio Studio so people on the InterNet can control the camera and watch the D.J.'s.
When do you hook this up to a robot sub at an Aquarium?
I am a systems integrator who attempts to keep a small portion of a fortune 500 company within a reasonble reach to the cutting edge of technology. Remote operation would be a valuable tool for a portion of the department, as they work with potentially hazardous and/or nuclear material.
I expect this could develop into a major player in the sexual entertainment industries.
Nice job! As a home-schooling parent, this virtual reality experiment has a lot of potential for teaching the sciences.
A really innovative use of the Information Superhighway! This is an exciting glimpse into the future of scientific collaboration.
Very interesting and rather bizarre experience, like a fuzzy dream in black and white. I don't think I've had an experience quite like this before. The value of parsimonious use of energy becomes immediately apparent, in order to make good use of each unit of energy. This experience reminds me of an idea of Bruce Sterling's (the SF writer of cyberpunk fame). He says somewhere that the future of the space program may depend on telepresence--exploration of remote locations made available to the masses by means of many miniature robots roving the solar system (or the bottom of the ocean, or radioactive regions, etc). I had thought his idea referred to a fairly remote future! Instead, I find you are already accomplishing it. I had no idea the Web could offer such a bizarre and unforeseen experience. Thank you.
Me and my friend John were operating the robot and we discovered something at coordinates x:870 y:471 that resembles the Pope's head but my mom said it looked liked JFK with a hat from egypt on his head. Excavating with your robot sure is fun.
Great fun! The anticipation was enough to kill me. The graphics could have been better but at least I can say "I was the first 'kid' on the block to..."
We need real time chat mode to encourage, heckle, and basically supervise the current operator. It might be fun to be able to discuss what we'd found with other users and with the operator while they're excavating!
Interesting thing. I wonder how many hours peoply will spend on this thing instead of working!
*** By far the best use of the Web I've encountered. And the most fun too. I found a piece of paper saying "Free Gift From Smithsonian". Do I win something?
Why don't you put one or two beetles into the box? Guess that`d be great fun!!
I really enjoyed it. It was much better than CATS.
Well, I'm addicted.
Very cool. A noble waste of CPU and bandwidth.
This is without a doubt the most amazing thing I've ever encounteredon the net, bar none. After 18 years out here, I didn't expectanything to be this surprising. It will be interesting to see where things go from here. Good luck with your network connection, www.usc.edu is about to become the hottest site on the Web.
This is a truly amazing demonstration of telepresence.
Hi Chaps ! This is the most interesting place I have ever found on my web-trips around the world. A fantastic idea to install a robot which is under the control of an operator who sits perhaps on the other side of our planet and just moves his mouse and clicks on it. Be sure, I'll come back soon... bonne nuit et salut !
FANTASTIC! It is amazing to operate a robot arm from Australia. Since we have no robots in our department we are in awe of what you have set up. A truely multimedia creation.
This site is the most incredible use of the WWW I've seen yet. Taken purely as an art project (in the vein of natural science as art, sensibility, Museum of Jurassic Technology, for instance), w/o the robot, it is brilliant, but this...yikes! It's great.
This form of Cyberspace -> Reality interaction is both creative and innovative. The ease of which the robot is controlled, and the clarity of the updated images are superb. Kudos go out to all on the team!
Enjoyed it greatly! I've been waiting months to get on the system. I think you guys are really into a momentous new innovation here. It gives us an indication of where interactive networks can lead us.
Bizzarre, refreshing. Thanks for making the web worth the bandwidth.
Absolutely incredible!! The impact of projects like this will revolutionize anthropology and other sciences.
Thanks for my first opportunity to perform a remote physical action. Congratulations!
Thank you for providing this remarkable exercise in AI, robotics, and the WEB. Great stuff, really.