A Conversation With Drew Casper
Photo/Philip Channing
AE: When did you first fall in love with movies?
DC: When I saw my first film. I remember seeing The Dolly Sisters. There were these two little girls on the screen first, one dressed all in pink and the other all in blue. Then all of a sudden, there was this dissolve and they became Betty Grable and June Haver. And I thought this was so amazing. It was like another world that transcended my own world, as the church was too. When I went to films, I would stay usually for two times and if they really knocked me out, I would get lost and see them again and again and again.
AE: How old were you then?
DC: I don’t remember exactly, but I remember seeing Sunset Boulevard later when I was about 6. I would collect bottles on the beach for two cents a bottle and got 35 cents to go to the Casino Theatre in Wildwood, N.J., where we spent all of our summers. I told my parents I was going to confession. I gave my 35 cents to adults and asked him or her to buy me a ticket. The movie house was pitch black and so was the film frame, full of shadows as it was. It scared me more than any Frankenstein or Dracula movie. I ran all the way home and hid under the sofa bed until my family came home from the beach. I never saw a human being so locked into herself, so delusional as Norma Desmond.
AE: Did you always go to adult movies as a child?
DC: I didn’t go to Disney. In Philadelphia, I’d take the bus in and go to movies. I was about 7 and wanted to see Come Back, Little Sheba with Shirley Booth and Burt Lancaster. The cashier would say, ‘Oh, sonny, you want the film across the way, Peter Pan.’ And I would have to give my money to an adult. I knew Hitchcock when I was very young. I remembered his name because it was above the title on Under Capricorn when I saw it with my parents. So when I saw his name again for Strangers on a Train, I went to see it by myself. I knew that Hitchcock was a sign of quality, like Billy Wilder. I went to all Billy Wilder's movies as a kid.
AE: Did you ever meet Hitchcock?
DC: Once. In 1975. It was at Chasen’s and I was still a Jesuit priest. Hitch and his wife Alma were in the first booth. I knew that Hitchcock was educated by Jesuits and I said, ‘I am a Jesuit and I am studying at USC in the film school.’ He stopped eating and made the sign of the cross and blessed me, In nomine Patris, et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. And then he asked me to sit beside him, and he proceeded to tell me about his latest film, Family Plot, for a good 10 or 15 minutes.
AE: How many years has Pat Hitchcock, the director’s daughter, been coming to the class when you screen Psycho?
DC: She started coming in the 1980s, and she always has a lot to say. She acted in the film, you know. She’s very generous and brings very handsome watches with Hitch’s likeness on them and passes them out to everyone in the class.
AE: You are an expert on the career of Doris Day. Why Doris Day?
DC: Looking at her on the screen made me feel lighter, happier. She conveyed, in film after film, a focus, an optimism that I hooked into and used as a role model. She had a smile that would light up New York City – what a way to meet the world. No matter, whether she was conned by men, or in unfortunate straits, she pulled through. The voice also sent me. When Doris sang, it was so intimate; you felt that she was singing just to you. And Doris could find the emotional key to a song and bring it out.
AE: How did you develop your infallible memory?
DC: Like the body, the memory has got to be exercised. While I drive, I listen to CDs of Broadway shows. I will cull five or six songs from the show (or in the case of a show like South Pacific, all the songs) and then I will memorize them. On my walks in the morning, from 4 to 5 a.m., I will intersperse my prayers with songs. And then I exercise the body at the gym and swim.
AE: Tell me about your new book.
DC: It’s film from 1946 to 1962. It’s going back to my childhood. What I contend is that historians and aestheticians have not given enough accounting of this period as a time when the classic paradigms begin to break. They usually say 1960. But you could see this maneuvering, this subverting, this coming apart in many, many ways. Great scholar Dana Pollen shares this same idea about postwar cinema. He encouraged me to pursue this. If it weren’t for Pollen, this book would never be.
AE: How many films do you see a week?
DC: Six, seven? You gotta keep up. I see a lot of foreign films. They are more satisfying than postmodern American films. The most amazing film I’ve seen in the last six months is the German film that won the Oscar for best foreign film, The Lives of Others. From 1977 on, there’s been a diminution in American films, as in all the arts. American films today unfortunately are about technology and commerce. Not that they weren’t before, but these values have overridden literary values and performance values. Corporations are cultural movers today, not artists.
AE: Do you have a favorite Hitchcock film?
DC: Yes. Notorious. Ingrid Bergman and Cary Grant. I think it’s a perfect film. Like all Hitchcock films, it has such a rich subtext. It’s about two damaged people who can’t trust. It’s one of the great love stories not only in Hitchcock’s work but in all of screen literature.
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The Chronicle of Higher Education mentioned USC’s $6 billion fundraising campaign. The story noted that USC had already raised $1 billion in a “quiet phase,” including the $200 million naming gift from USC Trustee and alumnus David Dornsife and wife Dana Dornsife to the USC Dornsife College.
The Guardian (U.K.) highlighted two major gifts to USC in a list of the 10 biggest philanthropic benefactors in America. The list included the $200 million naming gift from USC Trustee and alumnus David Dornsife and wife Dana Dornsife to the USC Dornsife College, and the $110 million gift from USC Trustee and USC Viterbi School alumnus John Mork and wife Julie to create the USC Mork Family Scholars Program.
The New York Times featured the USC U.S.-China Institute documentary “Assignment: China — The Week that Changed the World.” The documentary, part of a series, examines media coverage of the 1972 Nixon trip that reshaped U.S.-China relations after a quarter century of isolation and hostility. “People look back now and take it for granted that the outcome was preordained,” said the institute’s Mike Chinoy, who produced the documentary. Voice of America also featured the story.
Los Angeles Times featured the Oscar Senti-meter, a tool developed by the USC Annenberg School, Los Angeles Times and IBM that analyzes thousands of tweets about the Academy Awards nominees. The story noted that Mexican actor Demian Bechir received an enormous boost on Twitter the day of the nominations, with a total of 6,893 tweets mentioning him, a 47-fold increase from the day before. The story noted the tool uses language-recognition technology developed in collaboration with USC Viterbi School’s Signal Analysis and Interpretation Lab.
The Times of India (India) featured a three-day medical emergency training workshop organized in association with USC. At the workshop, held at GCS Medical College in India, 50 doctors and more than 100 paramedics learned how to improve emergency support systems. William Mallon of the Keck School of USC said that discussion topics included the use of portable ultrasonic devices to scan patients. “The ultrasound applications help physicians make accurate and timely decisions,” he noted. Daily News & Analysis (India) also featured the workshop.
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